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2013 2013 2013 <h4>&nbsp;</h4><h4 align="center"><span style="font-size: x-large;">Wonders in the Wiggle Room</span></h4><div align="center"><span style="font-size: large;">The Fine Art of Altering Church History</span></div><h4>&nbsp;</h4><h4>&nbsp;</h4><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">From David C. Pack's Original , Pre August 31, 2013 Announcement 21</span></div><br /><br /><h4><span style="color: red;">"The Time Is NOW!</span></h4><br />Now comes a series of reasons Haggai’s prophecy will be fulfilled<strong><span style="color: red;"> this year</span></strong>. They are summarized, with only a very little detail added. More could be said of each, but the descriptions given will suffice to those willing to think just a little about them. Realize there are over 30 more reasons—many of them very powerful—that I have left off the list because some will be covered later or because they would only be recognized as proofs by our Headquarters ministry (involving various miracles, some big). Readers would be largely unable to appreciate them as <em>proofs</em>:<br /><br />1) Understanding the meaning of the prophecy, starting with <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Haggai 1:2</a>, <em>automatically</em> carries the <em>requirement</em> of taking a position on it. This cannot be avoided after one learns it. Think about this. The position of the remnant is that “the time is not come” to rebuild God’s House. Are they right or wrong? God indicts their thinking, meaning they are <em>wrong</em>! If the prophecy is not <em>now</em>, the net effect would be that God agrees with the remnant’s view. Worse, so should those currently in God’s one Church because <em>they now know the meaning of the prophecy</em>. Think this through. One does or does not agree with the remnant. God does not—and we do not. The time is now! Let’s go further.<br /><br />2) Directly related, why (or how) would God <span class="small-caps">command</span> the remnant to “Go…build the House!” (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Hag. 1:8</a>)—but not mean NOW? How could He mean some undetermined <em>future year</em>? Why would God tell them (twice) to “consider their ways”—but not mean that they should do this now? Try to imagine God saying, “Consider your ways, but take your time. There’s no hurry. In fact, take years to think it over—even though you have been out of My Church <em>for 20 years!</em> You don’t have to DO anything <em>now</em>.”<br /><br />3) Also related, if God waited 2,500 years to reveal the prophecy’s meaning (3,000 years when various related much older Psalms are considered), is not His waiting done? Does His revealing it not signal that He has reached the time to fulfill it rather than having reached a point one, two or three years out?<br /><br />4) Next, why would God wait longer? What would He wait for? The remnant is absolutely <em>ripe</em> for deliverance.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">5</span></strong>) Internally, and this is no small thing, God’s Church is truly <em>ready</em> to expand the Work in a BIG WAY. The prophecy features <em>this</em> as the MAIN PURPOSE of the remnant returning! Without the prophecy’s fulfillment, this expansion would be delayed one year—or more! Why would God notify His Church of the prophecy’s existence at the very same time our staff is ready, our websites are ready, our literature is ready and even God’s college is ready for more students <em>if the prophecy were not imminent</em>? Why would God notify His Church if HE were not ready?<br /><br />6) Related to this, the <em>buildings</em> on our campus can very soon handle <em>significantly more staff</em> than we have now. This is already true without the other two buildings scheduled for completion in the late fall. However, this extra size works perfectly if the prophecy occurs this year.<br /><br />7) Also related, but separate, our <em>infrastructure</em> is ready to receive and serve a much larger flock this fall! This includes field ministry being ready, but also other things.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">8</span></strong>) Maturing interest from many in the world due to one year of explosive television expansion requires many more laborers in the ministry by <span style="color: red;"><strong><em>this autumn</em>.</strong></span><br /><br />9) The Restored Church of God is experiencing an AWESOME period of growth and development at this time—in the runup period just prior to the prophecy’s fulfillment. This is putting it mildly! To us, this is powerful indication that we are on the right track for this year—that God is not only <em>pleased</em> with His Church, but that He is <em>helping</em> it get ready.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">10) If the prophecy did not happen this year,</span></strong> the remnant would remain another year (or <em>more</em>) undergoing <em>ever worsening false ways</em>. Worse off, they would have a commensurate <em>shorter time</em> to spiritually recover before the Tribulation. Think worse condition, less time to recover.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">11</span></strong>) If reunification occurred next year (or any year after), those with God’s Spirit would have one more year cut off from God’s Church. This carries the potential for more to quench the Holy Spirit (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">I Thes. 5:19</a>) and lose salvation.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">12)</span></strong>&nbsp;&nbsp; <strong><span style="color: red;">Elimintaed </span></strong>The readers of the Haggai prophecy announcements (this is #21) who believed them would be the <em>most disillusioned</em> and the biggest candidates to QUIT everything if God did not return His people to one House <em>this year</em>! This would work directly against what God is doing—directly opposite His overall purpose.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">13)</span></strong>&nbsp; <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated</span></strong> Further desolation (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Hag. 1:11</a>; <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">2:16-17</a>) from God of the splinter “houses” would practically wipe out the few remaining senior leaders in them. This includes pastors and elders, all of whom are NEEDED TO CARRY OUT THE BIG WORK!<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">14)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated&nbsp; </span></strong>The onset of all future years would never come with clarity—with any certainty! Would God leave thousands who are now aware of this prophecy in such a condition? Hardly.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">15)</span><span style="color: red;"> Eliminated</span></strong> Next, for those who will see the value of <em>how</em> to pursue spiritual matters, there is this: After fervently seeking God about it, <em>not one reason</em> the prophecy is off this year ever emerged in the minds of even one of our 16 Headquarters ministers! I (we) have NEVER prayed about, studied over, meditated on, fasted about and counseled with other ministers regarding a subject <em>more than this one</em>—in fact no other subject is even close!<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">16)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated</span></strong> Similarly, as questions emerged throughout our pursuit of truth with the many details of the prophecy, so many of these details kept coming clear as direct answers to prayer. And these were often immediate.<br /><br /><span class="small-caps"><strong><span style="color: red;">17)</span></strong></span> <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated</span></strong> Recall <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Haggai 1:13</a>: “Then spoke Haggai the <em><span class="small-caps">Lord’s</span> messenger</em> in the <em><span class="small-caps">Lord’s</span> message</em> unto the people…” Haggai is the <em>messenger</em> to God’s people, with what is an all-important <em>message from God</em>. Would not God make clear in such a unique message He describes as “the <span class="small-caps">Lord’s</span> message unto His people” the correct date for action? What kind of message would it be if people did not know WHEN TO CARRY IT OUT?<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">18</span></strong>)<strong><span style="color: red;">Now Point 12</span></strong> &nbsp;Since the apostasy, God had not wanted the remnant back in His Church, but now He does. He would <em>first</em> reveal the remnant to His leader, <em>then</em> tell him <em>how</em> they would return, and <em>finally</em> that He meant NOW. This was the order in which these things became apparent.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">19)</span><span style="color: red;"> Eliminated</span></strong> Imagine God <em>not</em> revealing the year the remnant is coming—but only the day and month. Vast amounts of time would have been wasted by His leaders studying and preparing for something that was not imminent. Would God put His Church in such a position?<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">20</span><span style="color: red;">) Eliminated</span></strong> &nbsp;Of interest, God revealed to me <em>during ELUL</em> four years ago my role as the modern Joshua.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">21)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated </span></strong>Also of interest, I and The Restored Church of God learned about the New Testament remnant <em>last ELUL</em> (August). Let’s ask: Would timing of when we were shown the prophecy not be tied to its unique timing of fulfillment during the very <em>next available ELUL</em>?<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">22)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Now Point 13We</span></strong> might ask: does the DEVIL know the prophecy is on? For those who understand how the devil works—that he counterfeits EVERYTHING God does—a variety of <em>counterfeit theories</em> have recently appeared about how God is going to reunite His people. Should not the devil be expected to do this at the time it would cause the most confusion? You will soon see that most of these theories are coming from men standing on the wrong side of this prophecy.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">23) Now Point 14&nbsp; </span></strong>With God’s people split up, it is now almost <em>impossible</em> to do a powerful Work. (This might be the one area where the splinter leaders would agree.) God’s Church is largely <em>stymied</em> in working with both brethren and the world because of the confusion and deception from top leaders about where God’s Church is, who has the truth, who is carrying on after Mr. Armstrong, who is doing the true Work, etc. (Reread #22.) There is <em>no other way</em> to proceed than for God to <em>remove leaders</em> who have lulled with deceit many thousands who were blind (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Rev. 3:17</a>) to begin with.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">24)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Now Point 15</span></strong> World conditions cry out for a big Work <u>NOW</u>!!!—not one or more years from now.<br /><br />I repeat: There are <em>many</em> more reasons for a 2013 fulfillment, with a few of a personal nature—and others involving God moving miraculously to reveal crucial things at certain times within an extraordinarily complex prophecy that involves <em>hundreds</em> of verses. I have not included all of these reasons because others would likely not accept them as legitimate. They are, however, on MY much longer list (now 56 total).<strong><span style="color: red;"> And these reasons stand on bedrock in the eyes of ALL our Headquarters ministers.</span></strong><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">From David C. Packs Updated, Altered, Erased and Redacted New Announcement 21 Post August 31, 2013</span><br /><br /><h4><span style="color: red;">"The Time Is Imminent!</span></h4><br />Now comes a series of reasons the fulfillment of Haggai’s prophecy <strong><span style="color: red;">cannot be far off</span></strong>. They are summarized, with only a very little detail added. More could be said of each, but the descriptions given will suffice to those willing to think just a little about them:<br /><br />1) Understanding the meaning of the prophecy, starting with <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Haggai 1:2</a>, <em>automatically</em> carries the <em>requirement</em> of taking a position on it. This cannot be avoided after one learns it. Think about this. The position of the remnant is that “the time is not come” to rebuild God’s House. Are they right or wrong? God indicts their thinking, meaning they are <em>wrong</em>! If the prophecy is not soon, the net effect would be that God agrees with the remnant’s view. Worse, so should those currently in God’s one Church because <em>they now know the meaning of the prophecy</em>. Think this through. One does or does not agree with the remnant. God does not—and we do not. Let’s go further.<br /><br />2) Directly related, why (or how) would God <span class="small-caps">command</span> the remnant to “Go…build the House!” (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Hag. 1:8</a>)—but somehow mean many years from now? Why would God tell them (twice) to “consider their ways”—but not mean that they should do this now? Try to imagine God saying, “Consider your ways, but take your time. There’s no hurry. In fact, take years to think it over—even though you have been out of My Church <em>for 20 years!</em> You don’t have to DO anything <em>now</em>.”<br /><br />3) Also related, if God waited 2,500 years to reveal the prophecy’s meaning (3,000 years when various related much older Psalms are considered), is not His waiting done? Does His revealing it not signal that He has reached the time to fulfill it rather than having reached a point one, two or three years out?<br /><br />4) Next, why would God wait longer? What would He wait for? The remnant is <em>ripe</em> for deliverance.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">5</span></strong>) Internally, and this is no small thing, God’s Church is truly <em>ready</em> to expand the Work in a BIG WAY. The prophecy features <em>this</em> as the MAIN PURPOSE of the remnant returning!<br /><br />6) Related to this, the <em>buildings</em> on our campus can very soon handle <em>significantly more staff</em> than we have now. This is already true without the other two buildings scheduled for completion in the late fall.<br /><br />7) Also related, but separate, our <em>infrastructure</em> is ready to receive and serve a much larger flock! This includes field ministry being ready, but also other things.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">8</span></strong>) Maturing interest from many in the world due to one year of explosive television expansion requires many more laborers in the ministry<strong><span style="color: red;"> in the near future.</span></strong><br /><br />9) The Restored Church of God is experiencing an AWESOME period of growth and development at this time—in the runup period just prior to the prophecy’s fulfillment. This is putting it mildly! To us, this is powerful indication that we are on the right track—that God is not only <em>pleased</em> with His Church, but that He is <em>helping</em> it get ready.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">10</span></strong>) For each year that passes before the prophecy’s fulfillment, the remnant would remain another year (or <em>more</em>) undergoing <em>ever worsening false ways</em>. Worse off, they would have a commensurate <em>shorter time</em> to spiritually recover before the Tribulation. Think worse condition, less time to recover.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">11</span></strong>) <span style="color: red;"><strong>Altered</strong></span> Similarly, those with God’s Spirit would have one more year cut off from God’s Church. This carries the potential for more to quench the Holy Spirit (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">I Thes. 5:19</a>) and lose salvation.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">12) Was Point 18 in old</span></strong>&nbsp;Since the apostasy, God had not wanted the remnant back in His Church, but now He does. He would <em>first</em> reveal the remnant to His leader, <em>then</em> tell him <em>how</em> they would return, and <em>finally</em> that He meant soon. This was the order in which these things became apparent.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">13)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Formerly point 22</span></strong> We might ask: does the DEVIL know the prophecy is on in the near term? For those who understand how the devil works—that he counterfeits EVERYTHING God does—a variety of <em>counterfeit theories</em> have recently appeared about how God is going to reunite His people. Should not the devil be expected to do this at the time it would cause the most confusion? You will soon see that most of these theories are coming from men standing on the wrong side of this prophecy.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">14) Was&nbsp;point 23</span></strong>&nbsp;With God’s people split up, it is now almost <em>impossible</em> to do a powerful Work. (This might be the one area where the splinter leaders would agree.) God’s Church is largely <em>stymied</em> in working with both brethren and the world because of the confusion and deception from top leaders about where God’s Church is, who has the truth, who is carrying on after Mr. Armstrong, who is doing the true Work, etc. (Reread #22.) There is <em>no other way</em> to proceed than for God to <em>remove leaders</em> who have lulled with deceit many thousands who were blind (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Rev. 3:17</a>) to begin with.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">15)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Was point 24</span></strong> World conditions cry out for a big Work <u>NOW</u>!!!—not years from now.<br /><br />Some summary review. Since the prophecy has been revealed, brethren have new knowledge. They know God <em>disagrees</em> with the remnant’s decision that it is not yet time to come together and build His House. <strong><span style="color: red;">With knowledge comes responsibility</span></strong> (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Jms. 4:17</a>; <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Heb. 10:26</a>). <br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">Could not agree more and now that we know the simple complex Haggai Prophecy did not come to pass as presented, the responsible thing to do is apologize.</span></div><br> 2013 2013 2013 <br><h4>&nbsp;</h4><h4 align="center"><span style="font-size: x-large;">Wonders in the Wiggle Room</span></h4><div align="center"><span style="font-size: large;">The Fine Art of Altering Church History</span></div><h4>&nbsp;</h4><h4>&nbsp;</h4><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">From David C. Pack's Original , Pre August 31, 2013 Announcement 21</span></div><br /><br /><h4><span style="color: red;">"The Time Is NOW!</span></h4><br />Now comes a series of reasons Haggai’s prophecy will be fulfilled<strong><span style="color: red;"> this year</span></strong>. They are summarized, with only a very little detail added. More could be said of each, but the descriptions given will suffice to those willing to think just a little about them. Realize there are over 30 more reasons—many of them very powerful—that I have left off the list because some will be covered later or because they would only be recognized as proofs by our Headquarters ministry (involving various miracles, some big). Readers would be largely unable to appreciate them as <em>proofs</em>:<br /><br />1) Understanding the meaning of the prophecy, starting with <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Haggai 1:2</a>, <em>automatically</em> carries the <em>requirement</em> of taking a position on it. This cannot be avoided after one learns it. Think about this. The position of the remnant is that “the time is not come” to rebuild God’s House. Are they right or wrong? God indicts their thinking, meaning they are <em>wrong</em>! If the prophecy is not <em>now</em>, the net effect would be that God agrees with the remnant’s view. Worse, so should those currently in God’s one Church because <em>they now know the meaning of the prophecy</em>. Think this through. One does or does not agree with the remnant. God does not—and we do not. The time is now! Let’s go further.<br /><br />2) Directly related, why (or how) would God <span class="small-caps">command</span> the remnant to “Go…build the House!” (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Hag. 1:8</a>)—but not mean NOW? How could He mean some undetermined <em>future year</em>? Why would God tell them (twice) to “consider their ways”—but not mean that they should do this now? Try to imagine God saying, “Consider your ways, but take your time. There’s no hurry. In fact, take years to think it over—even though you have been out of My Church <em>for 20 years!</em> You don’t have to DO anything <em>now</em>.”<br /><br />3) Also related, if God waited 2,500 years to reveal the prophecy’s meaning (3,000 years when various related much older Psalms are considered), is not His waiting done? Does His revealing it not signal that He has reached the time to fulfill it rather than having reached a point one, two or three years out?<br /><br />4) Next, why would God wait longer? What would He wait for? The remnant is absolutely <em>ripe</em> for deliverance.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">5</span></strong>) Internally, and this is no small thing, God’s Church is truly <em>ready</em> to expand the Work in a BIG WAY. The prophecy features <em>this</em> as the MAIN PURPOSE of the remnant returning! Without the prophecy’s fulfillment, this expansion would be delayed one year—or more! Why would God notify His Church of the prophecy’s existence at the very same time our staff is ready, our websites are ready, our literature is ready and even God’s college is ready for more students <em>if the prophecy were not imminent</em>? Why would God notify His Church if HE were not ready?<br /><br />6) Related to this, the <em>buildings</em> on our campus can very soon handle <em>significantly more staff</em> than we have now. This is already true without the other two buildings scheduled for completion in the late fall. However, this extra size works perfectly if the prophecy occurs this year.<br /><br />7) Also related, but separate, our <em>infrastructure</em> is ready to receive and serve a much larger flock this fall! This includes field ministry being ready, but also other things.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">8</span></strong>) Maturing interest from many in the world due to one year of explosive television expansion requires many more laborers in the ministry by <span style="color: red;"><strong><em>this autumn</em>.</strong></span><br /><br />9) The Restored Church of God is experiencing an AWESOME period of growth and development at this time—in the runup period just prior to the prophecy’s fulfillment. This is putting it mildly! To us, this is powerful indication that we are on the right track for this year—that God is not only <em>pleased</em> with His Church, but that He is <em>helping</em> it get ready.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">10) If the prophecy did not happen this year,</span></strong> the remnant would remain another year (or <em>more</em>) undergoing <em>ever worsening false ways</em>. Worse off, they would have a commensurate <em>shorter time</em> to spiritually recover before the Tribulation. Think worse condition, less time to recover.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">11</span></strong>) If reunification occurred next year (or any year after), those with God’s Spirit would have one more year cut off from God’s Church. This carries the potential for more to quench the Holy Spirit (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">I Thes. 5:19</a>) and lose salvation.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">12)</span></strong>&nbsp;&nbsp; <strong><span style="color: red;">Elimintaed </span></strong>The readers of the Haggai prophecy announcements (this is #21) who believed them would be the <em>most disillusioned</em> and the biggest candidates to QUIT everything if God did not return His people to one House <em>this year</em>! This would work directly against what God is doing—directly opposite His overall purpose.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">13)</span></strong>&nbsp; <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated</span></strong> Further desolation (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Hag. 1:11</a>; <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">2:16-17</a>) from God of the splinter “houses” would practically wipe out the few remaining senior leaders in them. This includes pastors and elders, all of whom are NEEDED TO CARRY OUT THE BIG WORK!<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">14)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated&nbsp; </span></strong>The onset of all future years would never come with clarity—with any certainty! Would God leave thousands who are now aware of this prophecy in such a condition? Hardly.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">15)</span><span style="color: red;"> Eliminated</span></strong> Next, for those who will see the value of <em>how</em> to pursue spiritual matters, there is this: After fervently seeking God about it, <em>not one reason</em> the prophecy is off this year ever emerged in the minds of even one of our 16 Headquarters ministers! I (we) have NEVER prayed about, studied over, meditated on, fasted about and counseled with other ministers regarding a subject <em>more than this one</em>—in fact no other subject is even close!<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">16)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated</span></strong> Similarly, as questions emerged throughout our pursuit of truth with the many details of the prophecy, so many of these details kept coming clear as direct answers to prayer. And these were often immediate.<br /><br /><span class="small-caps"><strong><span style="color: red;">17)</span></strong></span> <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated</span></strong> Recall <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Haggai 1:13</a>: “Then spoke Haggai the <em><span class="small-caps">Lord’s</span> messenger</em> in the <em><span class="small-caps">Lord’s</span> message</em> unto the people…” Haggai is the <em>messenger</em> to God’s people, with what is an all-important <em>message from God</em>. Would not God make clear in such a unique message He describes as “the <span class="small-caps">Lord’s</span> message unto His people” the correct date for action? What kind of message would it be if people did not know WHEN TO CARRY IT OUT?<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">18</span></strong>)<strong><span style="color: red;">Now Point 12</span></strong> &nbsp;Since the apostasy, God had not wanted the remnant back in His Church, but now He does. He would <em>first</em> reveal the remnant to His leader, <em>then</em> tell him <em>how</em> they would return, and <em>finally</em> that He meant NOW. This was the order in which these things became apparent.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">19)</span><span style="color: red;"> Eliminated</span></strong> Imagine God <em>not</em> revealing the year the remnant is coming—but only the day and month. Vast amounts of time would have been wasted by His leaders studying and preparing for something that was not imminent. Would God put His Church in such a position?<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">20</span><span style="color: red;">) Eliminated</span></strong> &nbsp;Of interest, God revealed to me <em>during ELUL</em> four years ago my role as the modern Joshua.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">21)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Eliminated </span></strong>Also of interest, I and The Restored Church of God learned about the New Testament remnant <em>last ELUL</em> (August). Let’s ask: Would timing of when we were shown the prophecy not be tied to its unique timing of fulfillment during the very <em>next available ELUL</em>?<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">22)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Now Point 13We</span></strong> might ask: does the DEVIL know the prophecy is on? For those who understand how the devil works—that he counterfeits EVERYTHING God does—a variety of <em>counterfeit theories</em> have recently appeared about how God is going to reunite His people. Should not the devil be expected to do this at the time it would cause the most confusion? You will soon see that most of these theories are coming from men standing on the wrong side of this prophecy.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">23) Now Point 14&nbsp; </span></strong>With God’s people split up, it is now almost <em>impossible</em> to do a powerful Work. (This might be the one area where the splinter leaders would agree.) God’s Church is largely <em>stymied</em> in working with both brethren and the world because of the confusion and deception from top leaders about where God’s Church is, who has the truth, who is carrying on after Mr. Armstrong, who is doing the true Work, etc. (Reread #22.) There is <em>no other way</em> to proceed than for God to <em>remove leaders</em> who have lulled with deceit many thousands who were blind (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Rev. 3:17</a>) to begin with.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">24)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Now Point 15</span></strong> World conditions cry out for a big Work <u>NOW</u>!!!—not one or more years from now.<br /><br />I repeat: There are <em>many</em> more reasons for a 2013 fulfillment, with a few of a personal nature—and others involving God moving miraculously to reveal crucial things at certain times within an extraordinarily complex prophecy that involves <em>hundreds</em> of verses. I have not included all of these reasons because others would likely not accept them as legitimate. They are, however, on MY much longer list (now 56 total).<strong><span style="color: red;"> And these reasons stand on bedrock in the eyes of ALL our Headquarters ministers.</span></strong><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size: large;">From David C. Packs Updated, Altered, Erased and Redacted New Announcement 21 Post August 31, 2013</span><br /><br /><h4><span style="color: red;">"The Time Is Imminent!</span></h4><br />Now comes a series of reasons the fulfillment of Haggai’s prophecy <strong><span style="color: red;">cannot be far off</span></strong>. They are summarized, with only a very little detail added. More could be said of each, but the descriptions given will suffice to those willing to think just a little about them:<br /><br />1) Understanding the meaning of the prophecy, starting with <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Haggai 1:2</a>, <em>automatically</em> carries the <em>requirement</em> of taking a position on it. This cannot be avoided after one learns it. Think about this. The position of the remnant is that “the time is not come” to rebuild God’s House. Are they right or wrong? God indicts their thinking, meaning they are <em>wrong</em>! If the prophecy is not soon, the net effect would be that God agrees with the remnant’s view. Worse, so should those currently in God’s one Church because <em>they now know the meaning of the prophecy</em>. Think this through. One does or does not agree with the remnant. God does not—and we do not. Let’s go further.<br /><br />2) Directly related, why (or how) would God <span class="small-caps">command</span> the remnant to “Go…build the House!” (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Hag. 1:8</a>)—but somehow mean many years from now? Why would God tell them (twice) to “consider their ways”—but not mean that they should do this now? Try to imagine God saying, “Consider your ways, but take your time. There’s no hurry. In fact, take years to think it over—even though you have been out of My Church <em>for 20 years!</em> You don’t have to DO anything <em>now</em>.”<br /><br />3) Also related, if God waited 2,500 years to reveal the prophecy’s meaning (3,000 years when various related much older Psalms are considered), is not His waiting done? Does His revealing it not signal that He has reached the time to fulfill it rather than having reached a point one, two or three years out?<br /><br />4) Next, why would God wait longer? What would He wait for? The remnant is <em>ripe</em> for deliverance.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">5</span></strong>) Internally, and this is no small thing, God’s Church is truly <em>ready</em> to expand the Work in a BIG WAY. The prophecy features <em>this</em> as the MAIN PURPOSE of the remnant returning!<br /><br />6) Related to this, the <em>buildings</em> on our campus can very soon handle <em>significantly more staff</em> than we have now. This is already true without the other two buildings scheduled for completion in the late fall.<br /><br />7) Also related, but separate, our <em>infrastructure</em> is ready to receive and serve a much larger flock! This includes field ministry being ready, but also other things.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">8</span></strong>) Maturing interest from many in the world due to one year of explosive television expansion requires many more laborers in the ministry<strong><span style="color: red;"> in the near future.</span></strong><br /><br />9) The Restored Church of God is experiencing an AWESOME period of growth and development at this time—in the runup period just prior to the prophecy’s fulfillment. This is putting it mildly! To us, this is powerful indication that we are on the right track—that God is not only <em>pleased</em> with His Church, but that He is <em>helping</em> it get ready.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">10</span></strong>) For each year that passes before the prophecy’s fulfillment, the remnant would remain another year (or <em>more</em>) undergoing <em>ever worsening false ways</em>. Worse off, they would have a commensurate <em>shorter time</em> to spiritually recover before the Tribulation. Think worse condition, less time to recover.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">11</span></strong>) <span style="color: red;"><strong>Altered</strong></span> Similarly, those with God’s Spirit would have one more year cut off from God’s Church. This carries the potential for more to quench the Holy Spirit (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">I Thes. 5:19</a>) and lose salvation.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">12) Was Point 18 in old</span></strong>&nbsp;Since the apostasy, God had not wanted the remnant back in His Church, but now He does. He would <em>first</em> reveal the remnant to His leader, <em>then</em> tell him <em>how</em> they would return, and <em>finally</em> that He meant soon. This was the order in which these things became apparent.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">13)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Formerly point 22</span></strong> We might ask: does the DEVIL know the prophecy is on in the near term? For those who understand how the devil works—that he counterfeits EVERYTHING God does—a variety of <em>counterfeit theories</em> have recently appeared about how God is going to reunite His people. Should not the devil be expected to do this at the time it would cause the most confusion? You will soon see that most of these theories are coming from men standing on the wrong side of this prophecy.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">14) Was&nbsp;point 23</span></strong>&nbsp;With God’s people split up, it is now almost <em>impossible</em> to do a powerful Work. (This might be the one area where the splinter leaders would agree.) God’s Church is largely <em>stymied</em> in working with both brethren and the world because of the confusion and deception from top leaders about where God’s Church is, who has the truth, who is carrying on after Mr. Armstrong, who is doing the true Work, etc. (Reread #22.) There is <em>no other way</em> to proceed than for God to <em>remove leaders</em> who have lulled with deceit many thousands who were blind (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Rev. 3:17</a>) to begin with.<br /><br /><strong><span style="color: red;">15)</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: red;">Was point 24</span></strong> World conditions cry out for a big Work <u>NOW</u>!!!—not years from now.<br /><br />Some summary review. Since the prophecy has been revealed, brethren have new knowledge. They know God <em>disagrees</em> with the remnant’s decision that it is not yet time to come together and build His House. <strong><span style="color: red;">With knowledge comes responsibility</span></strong> (<a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Jms. 4:17</a>; <a alt="View scripture" class="ren-link" href="javascript:void(0)" title="javascript:void(0)">Heb. 10:26</a>). <br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">Could not agree more and now that we know the simple complex Haggai Prophecy did not come to pass as presented, the responsible thing to do is apologize.</span></div><br>2013 2013 2013 <br> <a href="http://www.matrixar.com/" title="Matrix ">المصفوفة : أجمل الخلفيات والصور</a>

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